Comments on: “Is Louie Starting a Church?” http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/ The official blog of Buckhead Church in Atlanta, GA. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:35:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: MJ http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-11030 MJ Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:08:46 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-11030 Amen, Rich. Amen, Rich.

]]> By: Matt http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-5024 Matt Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:48:28 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-5024 Ugh. We really do not need more religion in this city. I really wish you had taken your religion elsewhere. At least you're up in Cobb County, Louie, where everyone is already religious. We don't need any more zealots here in Buckhead, that's for sure. Ugh. We really do not need more religion in this city. I really wish you had taken your religion elsewhere. At least you’re up in Cobb County, Louie, where everyone is already religious. We don’t need any more zealots here in Buckhead, that’s for sure.

]]> By: Doug Bell http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-2875 Doug Bell Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:07:30 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-2875 I have a passion for the city Atlanta to be transformed by the Gospel of the Lord Jesus. I am a white guy but I mentor two African American young men. Every Saturday night we get together for Bible Study and worship through song, but the bulk of our time is spent on our knees in prayer. We pray for each other, the three different churches we attend and their pastors, as well as pastors throughout the city, that they may be faithful to the Word of God. When I hear of Louie Giglio starting a church with the blessing of Andy Stanley, it gives me great concern. I have not found Andy Stanley to be faithful to the Word of God. The Bible gives many warning passages of eternal condemnation. In the book of Matthew alone, I have found 41 references to eternal condemnation. The primary audience for most of these warnings is those who profess belief. Predominantly, unbelievers do not read the Bible, it is believers who read the Bible. The promise of New Covenant in Jeremiah 32: 40 states, "I will put my fear in their hearts so that they will not fall away." Even as believers, we still are not totally sanctified until we are glorified. We still have remaining corruption in our hearts. 1Corinthians 10 tells us that the judgements of God against apostate Israel were written for our example, that we would not be idolatrous as they were. Then it goes on to say, "If you think you are standing, take heed lest you fall." These warnings of eternal condemnation given to professing believers are to cause us to not be presumptuous about our salvation, but to "make every effort to make our calling and election sure" as 2 Peter 1 states. If these warning are a God ordained means to cause us to be diligent in the faith, guess what happens when these warning are not given? Simple, the church becomes lazy and evetually falls into apostasy. I do not hear Andy Stanley every week, but during the many times I have heard him through ten years of teaching, he takes the warnings of eternal condemnation, such as "they will be cast into outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" and makes them into only warning of losing rewards in heaven. I believe the bigges problem in our churches and our culture is a lack of fearing God. It is actually the fear of God that makes the grace of God so sweet. When Andy does these type of interpretations of scripture, he is actually leading people away from the fear of God, and subsequently the grace of God. A new believer may understand the grace of God under ANdy's teaching. But in due time, if they are not continuing to fear God, they will lose the sweetness of the grace of God. Revelation gives strong warnings about becoming "lukewarm" or "losing their first love." In summary, I pray that Louie does not fall into the trap of Andy, but that he faithfully teaches the whole counsel of God. On the cover of one of Louie's book, Louie writes that when one stands before God, there will be a rude awakening for those that have made their self the the center of life rather than God. Talk about making God the center of one's life is meaningless if it is not accompanined by making God's Word the center of one's life. I am not about dividing, I am about teaching, so if either ANdy or Louie, or any of their representatives want to sit down and talk through these issues, let's give it a shot. But at the end of the day, I will stand against anybody who talks alot about passion for God but is not passionate about HIs Word. That is called hypocrisy and my Savior stood against it. Doug Bell (dugframe@hotmail.com) I am a member of Christ Chuch Presbyterian P.C.A., so I am not unaccountable for the things I say or write. I have a passion for the city Atlanta to be transformed by the Gospel of the Lord Jesus. I am a white guy but I mentor two African American young men. Every Saturday night we get together for Bible Study and worship through song, but the bulk of our time is spent on our knees in prayer. We pray for each other, the three different churches we attend and their pastors, as well as pastors throughout the city, that they may be faithful to the Word of God.

When I hear of Louie Giglio starting a church with the blessing of Andy Stanley, it gives me great concern. I have not found Andy Stanley to be faithful to the Word of God. The Bible gives many warning passages of eternal condemnation. In the book of Matthew alone, I have found 41 references to eternal condemnation. The primary audience for most of these warnings is those who profess belief. Predominantly, unbelievers do not read the Bible, it is believers who read the Bible. The promise of New Covenant in Jeremiah 32: 40 states, “I will put my fear in their hearts so that they will not fall away.” Even as believers, we still are not totally sanctified until we are glorified. We still have remaining corruption in our hearts. 1Corinthians 10 tells us that the judgements of God against apostate Israel were written for our example, that we would not be idolatrous as they were. Then it goes on to say, “If you think you are standing, take heed lest you fall.” These warnings of eternal condemnation given to professing believers are to cause us to not be presumptuous about our salvation, but to “make every effort to make our calling and election sure” as 2 Peter 1 states. If these warning are a God ordained means to cause us to be diligent in the faith, guess what happens when these warning are not given? Simple, the church becomes lazy and evetually falls into apostasy. I do not hear Andy Stanley every week, but during the many times I have heard him through ten years of teaching, he takes the warnings of eternal condemnation, such as “they will be cast into outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” and makes them into only warning of losing rewards in heaven.

I believe the bigges problem in our churches and our culture is a lack of fearing God. It is actually the fear of God that makes the grace of God so sweet. When Andy does these type of interpretations of scripture, he is actually leading people away from the fear of God, and subsequently the grace of God. A new believer may understand the grace of God under ANdy’s teaching. But in due time, if they are not continuing to fear God, they will lose the sweetness of the grace of God. Revelation gives strong warnings about becoming “lukewarm” or “losing their first love.”

In summary, I pray that Louie does not fall into the trap of Andy, but that he faithfully teaches the whole counsel of God. On the cover of one of Louie’s book, Louie writes that when one stands before God, there will be a rude awakening for those that have made their self the the center of life rather than God. Talk about making God the center of one’s life is meaningless if it is not accompanined by making God’s Word the center of one’s life. I am not about dividing, I am about teaching, so if either ANdy or Louie, or any of their representatives want to sit down and talk through these issues, let’s give it a shot. But at the end of the day, I will stand against anybody who talks alot about passion for God but is not passionate about HIs Word. That is called hypocrisy and my Savior stood against it.
Doug Bell (dugframe@hotmail.com)

I am a member of Christ Chuch Presbyterian P.C.A., so I am not unaccountable for the things I say or write.

]]> By: Christina http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-2672 Christina Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:09:09 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-2672 I know I'm a little late on this...but wanted to encourage Louie's team as PCC has already launched. I still don't know everything that's going on, and I've never been to a Passion Conference. I've only heard by word of mouth the awesome things God is doing through Passion and listened to some podcasts. And just with that I believe it's good. I'm praying that PCC in Atlanta it's absolutely everything God wants it to be! I know I’m a little late on this…but wanted to encourage Louie’s team as PCC has already launched. I still don’t know everything that’s going on, and I’ve never been to a Passion Conference. I’ve only heard by word of mouth the awesome things God is doing through Passion and listened to some podcasts. And just with that I believe it’s good.

I’m praying that PCC in Atlanta it’s absolutely everything God wants it to be!

]]> By: Jessica http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-2273 Jessica Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:09:03 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-2273 i am excited for this church! if anyone has any recent updates on it please let me know. Thank God for Louie and his passion to share the gospel to the WORLD. i am excited for this church! if anyone has any recent updates on it please let me know. Thank God for Louie and his passion to share the gospel to the WORLD.

]]> By: Ibrahim http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-2250 Ibrahim Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:42:21 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-2250 I'm so excited with all the new thing that God Always is doing in his Kingdom... I ' am from Puerto Rico and I firt met Louie in Passion 2007. And I totally clear that this is not about men, this is about GOD...we pray that God continue showing his Grace and Glory not only to great leaders like Louie and Andy...He is way too Great to choose only few ones. But certainly there are men that are willing to do God's purpose. We all can be part of something Great! LOVE & Blessings from Puerto Rico...hope to see u soon or later! Keep shining! - ibrahim - I’m so excited with all the new thing that God Always is doing in his Kingdom… I ‘ am from Puerto Rico and I firt met Louie in Passion 2007. And I totally clear that this is not about men, this is about GOD…we pray that God continue showing his Grace and Glory not only to great leaders like Louie and Andy…He is way too Great to choose only few ones. But certainly there are men that are willing to do God’s purpose. We all can be part of something Great! LOVE & Blessings from Puerto Rico…hope to see u soon or later!

Keep shining!

- ibrahim -

]]> By: Rich http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-2249 Rich Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:36:33 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-2249 Strange how so many of you are putting so much faith into two men. Trust me, Atlanta will not perish if Louie and Chris Tomlin do not plant a church there. HELLO!!! Be careful who you put your trust and faith in because the sins of those you worship may be exposed to let you all know they are mere men. When church becomes a business it is no longer a church. Strange how so many of you are putting so much faith into two men. Trust me, Atlanta will not perish if Louie and Chris Tomlin do not plant a church there. HELLO!!!

Be careful who you put your trust and faith in because the sins of those you worship may be exposed to let you all know they are mere men.

When church becomes a business it is no longer a church.

]]> By: Tricia Heng http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-2236 Tricia Heng Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:59:02 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-2236 Dear Louie, I received "How Great is our God" DVD and others for Christmas 2008 to encourage me through my healing of cancer. I have faith and know God has healed me, I'm just catching up in the cell department and allowing God to mold me spiritually, emotionally and physically. In watching the video my prayer for you is to continue to step out of the box for Christ. To be his Hands & Feet wherever you go and to contiue building the Kingdom of God. It's one church in many locations and when there is unity, watch out because the people of the local community will know that your local church cares about them. Your sermon inspired me to see just how BIG Jesus is and he is so much larger than Cancer or any other circumstance we may be experiencing for a season. My husgand and I are in the midst of helping people in South and Central Florida through "A Place In Time Christian Minitries" because we all have a time and a place to meet God for the first time, to renew our relationship with him, and to discern our Purpoose, Passion and learn how to Persevere in Ministry. I was letting the devil's craftiness start to convince me because I'm not 100% that the vision we have may not be His but my own making up and was not going to happen because of the season I'm in right now---recovering; yet your sermon assured me that the picture in my heart is God's Vision and is to atay in the foreground and taking this time to seek more of who God is, what God wants and becoming more prepared for what He's prepred for my husband and me is where I'm suppose to be. God uses us all to bring Hope to His lost sheep and to touch and change lives for all of God's eternity. God spoke through you to me tonight and I'm renewed and refreshed and am forever grateful. We don't have website, but one of our programs you can see in God-Tube under "Baskets of Hope" Louie,I pray for your ministry and the planting of your local church, the lives you are touching and will touch for eternity. May God continue to strengthen you, give your clarity and enlarge your and your wife's territory for Him as you embark on this great adventure with God! Happy New Year and God Bless you. Tricia Dear Louie,

I received “How Great is our God” DVD and others for Christmas 2008 to encourage me through my healing of cancer. I have faith and know God has healed me, I’m just catching up in the cell department and allowing God to mold me spiritually, emotionally and physically.

In watching the video my prayer for you is to continue to step out of the box for Christ. To be his Hands & Feet wherever you go and to contiue building the Kingdom of God. It’s one church in many locations and when there is unity, watch out because the people of the local community will know that your local church cares about them. Your sermon inspired me to see just how BIG Jesus is and he is so much larger than Cancer or any other circumstance we may be experiencing for a season.

My husgand and I are in the midst of helping people in South and Central Florida through “A Place In Time Christian Minitries” because we all have a time and a place to meet God for the first time, to renew our relationship with him, and to discern our Purpoose, Passion and learn how to Persevere in Ministry. I was letting the devil’s craftiness start to convince me because I’m not 100% that the vision we have may not be His but my own making up and was not going to happen because of the season I’m in right now—recovering; yet your sermon assured me that the picture in my heart is God’s Vision and is to atay in the foreground and taking this time to seek more of who God is, what God wants and becoming more prepared for what He’s prepred for my husband and me is where I’m suppose to be. God uses us all to bring Hope to His lost sheep and to touch and change lives for all of God’s eternity. God spoke through you to me tonight and I’m renewed and refreshed and am forever grateful. We don’t have website, but one of our programs you can see in God-Tube under “Baskets of Hope”

Louie,I pray for your ministry and the planting of your local church, the lives you are touching and will touch for eternity. May God continue to strengthen you, give your clarity and enlarge your and your wife’s territory for Him as you embark on this great adventure with God! Happy New Year and God Bless you. Tricia

]]> By: Jeremy B http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-2095 Jeremy B Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:19:10 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-2095 Dear Louie, I have attended 722 since 2004 and have volunteered at two Passion conferences and it has changed my life. I've also attended Northpoint since 2004 and I have heard you speak a number of times. I love your passion for God. It's quite contagious. There was a 722 series you did a while back about relationships that a friend gave to me and it helped give me the courage to break up with a girl who didn't follow after God. It was one of the hardest things I ever did, but I just wanted to tell you thank you for speaking the word of God into my life boldly in a way where I knew what I had to do. And actually I just got married this past June to a beautiful woman who loves God as much as I do. I still attend Northpoint, but I was so excited!!! to hear that God was leading you to start Passion Church. I just want to encourage you in a small way and let you know that I would be honored to serve in any way that the church may have a need. I have volunteered in Waumba Land for three years and have also had the privilege to lead a men's singles small group. I can't wait to attend your first service and sign up to volunteer in any way! God bless and thank you for all you do to further God's kingdom! Jeremy B Dear Louie,

I have attended 722 since 2004 and have volunteered at two Passion conferences and it has changed my life. I’ve also attended Northpoint since 2004 and I have heard you speak a number of times. I love your passion for God. It’s quite contagious. There was a 722 series you did a while back about relationships that a friend gave to me and it helped give me the courage to break up with a girl who didn’t follow after God. It was one of the hardest things I ever did, but I just wanted to tell you thank you for speaking the word of God into my life boldly in a way where I knew what I had to do. And actually I just got married this past June to a beautiful woman who loves God as much as I do.

I still attend Northpoint, but I was so excited!!! to hear that God was leading you to start Passion Church. I just want to encourage you in a small way and let you know that I would be honored to serve in any way that the church may have a need. I have volunteered in Waumba Land for three years and have also had the privilege to lead a men’s singles small group. I can’t wait to attend your first service and sign up to volunteer in any way! God bless and thank you for all you do to further God’s kingdom!

Jeremy B

]]> By: Kim Ecker http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/2008/07/31/is-louie-starting-a-church/comment-page-2/#comment-1950 Kim Ecker Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:13:37 +0000 http://blog.buckheadchurch.org/?p=321#comment-1950 DEAR MR. GIGLIO: I RECENTLY BECAME A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN BACK IN FEB AND I CANT BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH JESUS NOW THAN THAT WHEN WAS CATHOLIC...ITS A CERTAIN KIND OF CLOSENESS THAT ONLY YOU AND THE LORD CAN SHARE...THE POINT IM GETTING AT IS ..OUR PASTOR AT CHRIST COMMUNITY CHURCH RECENTLY SHOWED "LAMININ" DURING SUNDAY SERVICE AND A FEW MONTHS AFTER THAT HE SHOWED "INDESCRIBABLE"..FOR A MOVIE NIGHT. I PRAISE GOD THAT "HE" HAS CHOSEN YOU FOR THIS AMAZING JOURNEY...YOU HAVE BEEN SUCH AN INSPIRATION TO ME. I THINK ITS REALLY COOL TO SEE THE INTENSITY OF LORD WORKING IN YOU. I DO HOPE THAT ONE DAY THE LORD WILL USE ME FOR HIS PURPOSE..(HE WILL, I JUST HAVE TO BE PATIENT)...I WATCHED YOUR INTERVIEW AND MY HEART GOES OUT FOR YOU..I KNOW YOU WILL GET 1.8 MILLION...I BELIEVE THAT MUCH IN OUR HEAVENLY FATHER...I WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOUR ARE PLACED ON OUR "POWER PRAYER" LIST. I HAVE YOUR VIDEO ON MYSPACE BECAUSE I WANT EVERYONE TO SEE HOW REALLY COOL WHAT SCIENCE IS ALL ABOUT. GOD BLESS YOU LOUIE!!!!KEEP SHINING!!!! DEAR MR. GIGLIO:
I RECENTLY BECAME A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN BACK IN FEB AND I CANT BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH JESUS NOW THAN THAT WHEN WAS CATHOLIC…ITS A CERTAIN KIND OF CLOSENESS THAT ONLY YOU AND THE LORD CAN SHARE…THE POINT IM GETTING AT IS ..OUR PASTOR AT CHRIST COMMUNITY CHURCH RECENTLY SHOWED “LAMININ” DURING SUNDAY SERVICE AND A FEW MONTHS AFTER THAT HE SHOWED “INDESCRIBABLE”..FOR A MOVIE NIGHT. I PRAISE GOD THAT “HE” HAS CHOSEN YOU FOR THIS AMAZING JOURNEY…YOU HAVE BEEN SUCH AN INSPIRATION TO ME. I THINK ITS REALLY COOL TO SEE THE INTENSITY OF LORD WORKING IN YOU. I DO HOPE THAT ONE DAY THE LORD WILL USE ME FOR HIS PURPOSE..(HE WILL, I JUST HAVE TO BE PATIENT)…I WATCHED YOUR INTERVIEW AND MY HEART GOES OUT FOR YOU..I KNOW YOU WILL GET 1.8 MILLION…I BELIEVE THAT MUCH IN OUR HEAVENLY FATHER…I WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. I’LL MAKE SURE THAT YOUR ARE PLACED ON OUR “POWER PRAYER” LIST. I HAVE YOUR VIDEO ON MYSPACE BECAUSE I WANT EVERYONE TO SEE HOW REALLY COOL WHAT SCIENCE IS ALL ABOUT. GOD BLESS YOU LOUIE!!!!KEEP SHINING!!!!

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