Great Quote
One comment that has been circulating throughout many of our staff meetings recently comes from Craig Groeschel, Senior Pastor of Lifechurch.tv:
“To reach people no one else is reaching we must do things no one else is doing.”
Okay, faithful Buckhead blog community, what do you think we should do to reach people that no one else is reaching? I’ve got my ideas but I’m interested in yours.
Click comment and let me hear from you.
Jeff
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July 21, 2008 at 7:38 am
Pray. (Are we really praying that hard or enough, and are we truly grateful for what he has already done?) Jesus finds the lost sheep, its our responsibility to FEED them. Every one of us has a story of the SPIRIT working in us to bring us home.
July 21, 2008 at 11:42 am
who exactly is buckhead church reaching that no one is reaching?
July 21, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Promotion of Christ through the arts: movie nights, concerts (from more frequent Nights of Worship, rock, pop, hip-hop, poetry slam, battle of the bands), and visual arts (we frequently have wonderful art, but maybe more deliberate gallery type areas of the church). Dare I even suggest a “Buckhead Church Has Talent” night?
Check out Ecclesia in Houston (www.ecclesiahouston.org) and go to Where We Meet: Our Arts Center as an example.
July 21, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Buckhead is a happening place on Friday and Saturday nights… Wish we could figure out a way to make our church a cool place to be on one of those nights. I don’t know if we’ve ever had a public concert at our church besides worship night(s) or private conferences. It would be cool to get a mainstream headliner and have a concert at the church. Kinda like those baptist church “5th Quarter” things we had as a youth.
July 21, 2008 at 8:08 pm
To reach the people nobody else is reaching, you’re probably going to have to leave the church building and the church programming out of it, because that’s what everyone else is using.
All I know to suggest is to use the church programming and events to challenge and disciple people and train them so that they can join God in what he is doing. So much of our involvement in what God is up to has to come from the leading of the Holy Spirit, so we have to learn as people and as a church how to follow that, how to engage in conversations with people, how to apologize for bad experiences with the church, how to love well. None of that happens outside of relationship with Jesus, which is why I say disciple people and grow people in whatever ways it takes so that they are ready to do the “reaching” the other 5 or 6 days a week.
July 22, 2008 at 2:13 am
I have an idea but I don’t know how to impliment it. How do we take the life changing message of Christ to the marketplace. There are so many professional people in Atlanta. Many attend church on Sunday and then go back to “It’s just business or that’s good business on Monday”
How do we bridge that gap? I want to help them come to know that their relationship with Christ goes everywhere and in every part of their lives…
July 22, 2008 at 5:01 am
The developing relationship with the Atlanta Public School System is a great example of Faith in Action! The Body of Christ impacting and engaging our community by meeting relevant needs so we may “gain the respect of outsiders.” This goes back to Andy’s message about creating an influence in culture as a Moral Authority.
July 22, 2008 at 5:43 am
We have to remember that the church is not the building or the hour on Sunday. The church is the body anywhere and everywhere its members are.
We each have to do to others what no one else is doing…mainly the same thing God did for us, love unconditionally. As a corporate body (or enter whatever other Christianese term you want), we can pool our resources and do things like adopting a school. But that doesn’t absolve any of us from loving individually like we are created to do.
There are people who don’t go to church for a number of reasons. Having another “cool” program there isn’t going to get them to come. We have to be like the Acts 2 church and make the people want what we have in community. There is a reason that excommunicating someone in the New Testament was a punishment (1 Cor 5), and now a days a lot of people would think it a blessing ;)
July 22, 2008 at 8:43 am
One-on-one mentoring/discipling of seekers/new believers. I know the Starting Point environment addresses this, but people only participate in Starting Point for a couple of months. We need something modeled on the relationship Paul had with Timothy where a mature believer pours his life into the next generation. I know we have mature followers of Jesus at Buckhead who would be willing to do this and we certainly have seekers/new believers among us who would like to develop a relationship with someone who so obviously has something (genuine relationship w/God) that they want!
July 22, 2008 at 10:52 am
A couple of ideas:
1) Sports/Athletics – one of the best ways to engage and interact with vibrant, active people in the community, outside of the confines of the building. A basketball or softball league is great, but may be challenging due to lack of facilities. Something more practical would be a Buckhead Church Running Club. Atlanta, and particularly Buckhead, is loaded with runners. I’ve had some great opportunities to share with and witness to others on long runs! Combining organized runs or team events with study and fellowship would be easy to establish and requires no equipment or facilities…just a meeting place and the streets of Buckhead.
2) Day School – has BC ever considered extending the terrific Waumba/Upstreet environments beyond only Sundays to a more formal schooling environment during the week?
July 22, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Jake is on to something, and I don’t think it should be limited to just mentoring seekers/new believers. There are a lot of “experienced” believers who need this as well. For example, a new husband that is a believer, but would just like to spend time with a “successful” husband to gain wisdom; new mothers mentored by an empty nest mother, etc. This would go along way to address the community ideas mentioned in other posts.
Nice call, Jake.
July 22, 2008 at 1:33 pm
I agree with Marcus and Luke Norris.
Saturdays in Buckhead are usually filled with 20-and-30 somethings looking for something to do. If Buckhead leveraged their facility on Friday and Saturday nights, I think you would be able to reach an audience of people that are more prone to coming out at night.
Here are some ideas…
1. Host an art gallery and forum in the lobby area right outside of the main auditorium.
2. I like Marcus’ idea of having a “Buckhead Church Has Talent” night. Those are always fun.
3. Why not move all the chairs back one Friday night and have a party? The auditorium is large enough and the chairs can be moved back into position afterwards.
4. Host forums and discussions for creative people (like me) where bloggers, twitter-ers, designers, artists, musicians and others can get together, build relationships and share ideas. Possibly creating a lounge-type environment where a community of creative people can engage one another would be great. This can spark great dialogue about Christ and would allow the unchurched to get their questions answered with Christians who share the same interests.
5. Create series that involve more involvement of the audience. For example, have an on-site message somewhere downtown, or develop an entire series around challenging the congregation with creative ways to engage people they work with or know of to spark conversation about Christ or just to build relationship.
6. Create a buzz message series or a game that gets the congregation involved, out of their seats, and into the streets. That’s always fun.
Well, that’s all I can think of for now.
Great post!
T H I N K | C H A N G E
July 22, 2008 at 6:41 pm
To add to TG’s comments Sports/Athletics – with BC been so close proximity to the start of the Ptree Road Race, we should organize a 5k race sometime in late may or early June that would help train the runners in their training for the Peachtree Road Race.
July 23, 2008 at 6:07 am
Some of these are great ideas…but are they really things no one else is doing?
There are already church softball leagues, running clubs (even “Christian” running clubs christianrunners.org/atlanta.html), church run day cares, Christian concerts, etc.
Do we really need another program that we can attach Buckhead’s name to?
July 23, 2008 at 11:40 am
As the title says what a “Great Quote”… and a great vision for any ministry to focus on. I think the obvious question that needs to asked along side of this is “who is not being reached that we have the oppurtunity to reach”. As Akash has pointed out, all of these ideas are great ways to reach people but they are being done and the people that they are focused on are the same people that most ministries (churches) focus on.
I am curious how we define ‘people no one else is reaching’? This is the first step to defining a ministry that reaches them.
To answer my own question, I would say the crowd that first pops into my heart are those that have been COMPLETELY turned off to God because that truly don’t know the love HE has for them. It’s a small group (but then I think that those who are not being reached are a smaller crowd as a whole when you compare it to those that already have a ministry focused to them) many of whom call themselves ‘atheist’ or ‘agnostic’ but just becuase they have given up on God doesn’t mean we should give up on them.
How can we reach these folks. How can we even get them to open their hearts to God let alone enter a building or event that is totally God focused?
July 23, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I concur with Akash and David. I think God can use anything so he may use a church program, but a lot of what has to happen is that the appeal of following Jesus has to be seen in ordinary, day-to-day life – unscheduled, free, raw, authentic – name your buzzword.
July 23, 2008 at 2:29 pm
BC along with other Northpoint churches definitely sets the bar in creating irresistible environments that attract folks to check out what a relationship with Christ is all about, whereas they wouldn’t consider more traditional church environs.
Something that must also exist is having irresistible witnesses to accompany the irresistible environments. Are we embodying that transcending joy and peace which makes a jaded postmodern American or newly arrived immigrant both similarly remark, “man, what do they have that I don’t and how can I get some of that?” Are our relationships with each other a true reflection of our relationship with God? Are we seeking accountability for those areas we struggle in while extending the kind of grace desperately needed in a tremendously sinful and broken world that is a genuine replication of Christ?
As just one example: Being a church that has a majority of singles, what kind of witness or evidence can we embody in ourselves (with the help of the Holy Spirit :-) and in our conduct with each other that would make a typical American, college-educated, unwed cohabiting couple who may be happy as larks reconsider how they are living to honor God in their relationship and wait until marriage?
A unique ministry I participated in last year was one that goes to sci-fi and fantasy conventions like DragonCon on Labor Day weekend: http://www.fansforchrist.org. At DragonCon, you will find people living openly and proudly in sin, but they need to be reached no less and God loves them no less than any other group in our society. Ironically the Fans For Christ table was set up across from the Skeptics Society in a hotel lobby, and both groups respected the other for being there. Though few in number, people came up to the table to thank us for recognizing that Christians are among the attendees at such an event and for reaching out to that demographic. Talking about reaching people no one else is reaching! Fans for Christ even had a small Sunday morning worship service at one of the convention hotels and I brought my non-Christian cousin to it, who I accidentally ran into at the Con and hardly ever sets foot in a church.
July 23, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Maybe a good way to reach people would be to have some sort of regular group activity that you organize or join and build relationships through that. It could be bike riding, hiking, running, ultimate frisbee, or knitting … ) You can then use an interest you already have to meet others that have that same interest and get to be friends. Maybe they will never come to “church”, but they should experience church any time they encounter you. If I could coin the phrase, I’d call it something boring like “common interest relational evangelism”.
Hopefully nobody has beat me to that because I need to write the book ;)
The challenge is that sometimes it can be hard to organize. Maybe the church can play a role in linking up a few outreach-minded believers with common hobbies who can then find plenty of people that share that same interest. Its Atlanta, after all. There are plenty of people that like to do everything. In a lot of cases the activity probably already has a group can you can find it on google and go.
I don’t think Buckhead Church needs another activity, I think Buckhead CHURCH needs to disperse into Atlanta. Maybe we just need some help getting organized?
July 23, 2008 at 9:53 pm
There is a great church a few blocks down the street from Buckhead Church that already has a successful sports ministry. I am even sure our church is larger in numbers than theres and they are probably 50 times older than us. So I don’t think that is the answer. Besides that, Andy said I while back that our churches mission is not to create another sports league. He’d rather have us out in the secular sports leagues living as a example of Christ.
I like what someone said about defining who we should be reaching? Is the the low income people in our community? Or the high end wealthy people a few blocks away? I think we need more guidance from our church’s staff on who our church is designed to reach. Then I think we can brainstorm on how we are going to reach them. My first idea is to goto them. Hard enough to get them to our church. I think going to them is the first step.
July 24, 2008 at 7:33 pm
I’ve posted on here a lot already (this makes 4 times) but I keep checking back to see what people are saying because I think this is a great conversation to have. I was wondering what the staff was thinking and praying about?
July 25, 2008 at 6:51 am
I’m so encouraged to see all these comments.
As we have sat in a circle the last few weeks and asked ourselves this same question, we have come up with lots of the same answers.
I am REALLY excited that we are taking a step “outside of the walls” of Buckhead Church starting September.
We are going to be announcing a new project that we are starting at the August 14th Night of Worship.
You will want to be there for this exciting announcement.
Thanks for your dreams church.
carlos
July 25, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Hey everyone. Thanks for your great feedback, questions, suggestions, open debate. I love it. To Brian’s comment regarding the staff, one of the things we believe is that the church 10 years from now won’t look like the church as it is today. So, what can we do to explore what the future might look like while at the same time staying true and focused on what God is currently blessing at Buckhead Church? One way to approach this is to consider some “Research & Development” ideas where we explore completely different methodology while at the same time not “squandering” resources and personnel. (Carlos’ entry above hints at one of those small steps. More on that in a couple of weeks.) Perhaps the best analogy of what we want to do is “re-engineer the plane while it’s flying in the air.” The plane (Buckhead Church) is flying and soaring, but we can never become complacent. That’s what I love about our staff, volunteers and church. It would be really easy just to coast right now. Things are going great. Instead, we’re asking tough questions, praying through difficult decisions, all with a deep desire to embrace the future of change and celebrate the current blessing of the present. In other words, to be great stewards of the potential with which God has blessed us as a church. This requires a keen eye on the present with open hands toward what God might have for us in the future.
Whew. That’s a long entry. Let’s keep talking and exchanging ideas. This is very helpful!
Jeff
July 27, 2008 at 11:19 am
Carlos, it’s not nice to tease us like that ;)
As for Luke’s question, I think the answer can be found in the Great Commission: “all nations”.
Jeff, when you say the church will be different in 10 years, do you mean Buckhead church or the way we do church in general? I’d like to think church in general could change in the next 10 years but we’ve been doing it the same for the last few hundred (with a little change in emphasis on liturgy). Some think we’re due for a change (Phyllis Tickle had an interesting talk on this at Mars Hill recently). It’d be cool if we could get back to the first century church, but I think there are a lot of cultural push backs to that mostly because “community” is defined a lot different these days.
July 28, 2008 at 7:18 am
I think we ought to take 722 where no one has gone before.
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1910253
Sorry – just a little comic relief, there.
July 28, 2008 at 7:48 am
Akash, yes to your question. Both Buckhead and the Church at large. I think there are so many positive things happening with the Church both domestically and internationally that will lead us to an even stronger place when 2018 rolls around. The key is to be more in love with our Savior and His message than in our methodology of spreading that message.
July 28, 2008 at 8:06 am
There has been a lot of writing over the past few years about trending away from traditional institutional churches and toward house churches. Many think that will be the shape of the church America in the future. It has its pluses
I grew up Baptist, transitioned into doing house church for about a year, and then came to Buckhead – so I went with the trend and then back the opposite direction. I don’t think that model has reached a point yet where I could imagine it being dominant within 10 years. For me (leader of one), it had several weaknesses like…
1) Too small of a network of relationships
2) No regular teaching and corporate worship
3) Lack of leadership in general
4) Lack of development of leaders
5) Difficulty in expanding outside of existing network of relationships.
It was hugely successful in involving people throughout my existing network of relationships that were unchurched, but did not spread outside of that into the surrounding homes in the area.
July 28, 2008 at 10:38 am
Wow, I’m sure I’m going to sound uncharacteristically fundamentalist with this comment but I feel like it needs to be said nonetheless.
There have been many churches that have become “relevant” and “seeker-friendly” over the past 10-15 years. Ironically, while these churches have broken away from the norm (i.e. traditional churches) they have become alot like each other. Perhaps, the intent was never to become unique — that’s not relevant to this discuss anyway. What is relevant is what has happened to some of those churches as they have transitioned to becoming “relevant”. That something is a trade-off of emphasis on bible-teaching with relevance and seeker-friendly environments.
Now don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that NPCC/BC/BBCC has become heretical or lost their focus on bible-teaching. Andy does a great job on Sunday morning explaing the Word and small groups and Starting Point serve their purpose. What I’m getting at is that I feel that their is a need for environments that focus on deeper biblical understanding. I realize that theo-practicy (spelling?) is being offered and that NPCC is experimenting with potential small group models that would lend itself to address this issue. My only point (as round-about as it may be) is that Buckhead Church needs an environment for those looking to take the next step in their understanding (and consequent obedience) of Christianity — and specifically the Bible — while in a group setting.
Call it the “Back Porch” if you like. :) That’s where all the serious conversations happened when I grew up.
July 28, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Tommy- regarding the workplace, check out http://www.lifelessonsoverlunch.com. This is our ministry environment that people can use at work. It’s been very succesful.
July 28, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Brian- like you, I would miss the gathering together for worship and connection. Plus, as a small group leader I feel like I get the connection of a “house church” while at the same time experiencing the thrill of worshipping together in a larger context. But then again, that’s just me. Sounds like you and I are on the same page. At the same time, I love how the Church can express itself in different ways and methodologies. Yet another reason why church should never be boring!
July 28, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Hey Kevin. Thanks for commenting. I think you’ll like the new series we’re starting at Buckhead on August 17 regarding spiritual growth. Sometimes, I think spiritual growth is confused with simply “attaining more information.” I’m not sure it works that way. In fact, I’m positive it doesn’t automatically happen that way. At the same time, we definitely want to create environments where our leaders are being encouraged and equipped. Our Groups Team is continuing to work toward that which is why Theopraxis is being tested among other things. Also, our recent Groups survey showed that a large majority of people in groups are finding the information and application needed to encourage their growth. You’ll hear more about that on August 10. In the meantime, keep commenting here, or we can talk next time I see you at BC. Thanks for all you do around here!!!
Jeff
July 29, 2008 at 5:30 am
I have just a few thoughts to share.
I assume the event name, “722″ will be retired. After all, it’s a reference to 2 Samuel 7:22, which reflected the focus of the original team to bring Atlanta (Christian) singles together to corporately bring praise and glory to God. Well, now that the focus is shifting to reaching lost singles in Buckhead, a new verse / title needs to be identified which reflects this change. And it must be a title that would not make a non-believing attendee sense that they are a target.
By the way – I’m all for the shift in focus. Both are legitimate focuses and it seems Sunday service environments keep both in mind. Yet I think it appropriate for the new “722″ to focus on creating an environment where lost singles would feel especially welcomed and comfortable – so that in time, they might accept the invite to a Sunday service. To this end, I think there is little need to speak of what Christians need, but rather how do we attract non-Christian singles to the event – whether it be in the church building or not.
One suggestion in this regard: Make the event very interactive. Once prime objective for singles is to meet that special someone – and not especially for marriage (so no “how to be ready for marriage” type messages, which might needlessly scare them off). What singles want is an opportunity to catch the eye of someone that interests them and you can’t do that sitting in rows, watching some sort of performance. It has to be some sort of environment where you are regularly instructed to turn to those around you and interact in some way. It gives individuals an opportunity to be known and that is what most singles, like myself, what – IMO. This may almost sound like Fusion, but Fusion is sort of geared toward insiders.
In general, we need to focus in on the felt needs of the lost singles we are trying to reach. This is a difficult task since the spectrum is widening as time goes on. We have young professionals who don’t yet feel that something is missing in their life and resent people who imply that they should. Those that are feeling it. Many divorced people, like myself, that have different life issues than their younger counterparts – yet still have that basic need to connect in a meaningful way with someone special.
July 29, 2008 at 8:37 am
Sorry about placement of my previous post. I’d read the 722-related blog, then this one and I blurred the two together. Hope my comments are still relevant enough for this discussion.
July 29, 2008 at 10:39 am
Jeff — Thanks for the follow-up. From speaking with John Hambrick a few weeks back it definitely seems that the Groups team is thinking outside the box to come up with new and relevant ways for people to connect with others and grow spiritually.
To clarify my prior comment, I think Buckhead Church is headed in the right direction to put resources into the hands of leaders. I suppose my larger concern is in regard a seeming “lack” (I use that term loosely) of structured teaching. Again, this goes back entirely to a difference of opinion in methodology. Call it personal preference if you like. To be quite honest though, I hope my personal preferences NEVER get in the way of what God has in store for anyone — especially HIS church.
August 27, 2008 at 6:55 pm
This is a late post…(looking at the above dates)- but I was browsing the web, and feel compelled to comment. One group I wish you would reach out to: the gay/lesbian sector. I am a Christian, I am also a lesbian. I’ve visited your church on several occasions…and I felt such a unique worshipful experience. The teaching is sound….and relevant- but feel that I can not bring my partner, although I would love for her to develop a relationship with God. I can tell that we would not be welcomed. I know this is a subject that creates a multitude of controversy- but, you posed the idea- “To reach people no one else is reaching we must do things no one else is doing.” Well, I can tell you, not many people are welcoming “us”. It seems that so many feel so called to condemn us…that they never stop to invite us into a relationship with Christ.
July 10, 2009 at 9:12 am
I have always been frustrated by the propensity of mainstream churches, many like the ones where I have pastored, who cater to those “who could pay us back” (Luke 14:12) instead of reaching out to the disenfranchised, mentally ill, poor, maligned, imprisoned.
I think the answer to your question and to our calling is easy. We need to open our eyes where we live, work , and worship. We need to divert our efforts away from building “successful” churches where Jesus wouldn’t come (except to kick over tables).
June 21, 2010 at 8:38 am
There is a HUGE opportunity to reach an unchurched segment of the population…the gay community. Let’s welcome them unconditionally and not be like other churches that tell them to get right before God before coming through the doors to our church. Let’s greet them with the love of Jesus and let them know that we are truly glad they are there.
April 4, 2011 at 9:35 am
Jason you are right on. I know that there is a small group of them that are involved here but are afraid to express themselves to much within the walls of the church. Afraid of what Andy and others might say or just what some of the other backbiting members might say.
April 4, 2011 at 9:31 am
To reach people who are not reached, GLBT community either hates God because of the way we have treated them or they feel like we would never stand up from the pulpit and say we love you come follow us. We need to change that. Lets reach out to the gay community more and be more accepting.
October 31, 2011 at 10:40 am
I have been attending Buckhead Church for nearly 6 years. During that time, I have often heard it mentioned during the service that EVERYONE is welcome. Yesterday’s 11 am service at Buckhead Church was absolutely amazing. The EVERYONE IS WELCOME POLICY really came alive when the first pre-recorded baptism video package began to run. Erin described herself as a gay woman who was broken and needed a savior. It took an incredible amount of courage for Erin to do this in front of 2500+ people. I know that it also took an immense amount of courage and conviction for the church leadership to actually run the pre-recorded video package. I am so proud of both Erin and the leadership for taking a stand and for sending the message loud and clear that EVERYONE is truly welcome at Buckhead Church. When Jesus died on the cross, he died for the sins of anyone willing to acknowledge and accept this free gift. Nobody is good enough on their own without the grace of God. So no matter where you stand on the issue of homosexuality, it is important for us all to remember that we are all sinners, we all fall short, and we all need a savior.